Organisational change and the benefits of, and challenges to, neurodivergent team members

My talk at Agile Manchester 16 May 2024

Sharon Dale
9 min readMay 18, 2024
Organisational change and the benefits of, and challenges to neurodivergent team members

15–20 percent of the UK population is neurodivergent. That means that 15–20 percent of this conference, your workplace and parliament should be neurodivergent. I don’t believe that is the case and we will talk about that.

Sharon Dale Coach, 21st Century Mindset Ltd ADHDer and Autistic (mostly) pixlz on socials

I am Sharon Dale, I am a coach, I am an ADHDer and autistic and I am mostly pixlz on socials

A bright colourful cartoon of a brain

Here is an image of my brain

Meme — An image of a brain with sections marked, “DON’T BE AWKWARD!” *self talk, Puns, Memes, Song lyrics and movie quotes, 5,000 hypothetical arguments I’ll never have, “Don’t trip over stuff”, Righty tightly lefty loosey

Not really, this is what my brain actually looks like. OK, this talk is an hour long and if you have to listen to me for an hour, if I have to listen to me for an hour, it will be very boring and so I have included some interaction. If you would like to join in scan the QR code with your phone camera and click on the URL.

How do you know about neurodiversity? Bar chart 42.31% Close family member or self, 26.92% friend or co-worker, 11.54% know about it from media etc, 19.23% don’t really know about it.

Excellent so a high proportion of people close to someone or neurodivergent themselves. I did not expect so many people who don’t really know about it, welcome.

Talk Objectives 1/2 — Increase awareness and understanding of neurodiversity and its significance in the workplace. Explore the strengths and perspectives that neurodivergent individuals bring to teams and organizations. Address the challenges faced by neurodivergent individuals in traditional work environments and discuss strategies for creating a more supportive and inclusive culture.
2/2 Identify actionable steps and strategies that audience members can take to promote neurodiversity within their own organizations. Inspire and empower audience members to embrace diversity and champion inclusion in their workplaces for the betterment of both individuals and organizations.
Terminology, Neurodiversity, Neurotypical, Neurodivergent
Neurodiversity — as a concept recognises that each person’s brain works in different ways. It ties into the way we think, process, learn and behave.
Neurotypical — is a term used to describe individuals with typical neurological development or functioning.
Neurodivergent — NeuroDivergent people’s differences are cognitive, often invisible, and impact how we interpret the world, process information, and interact with others.
Poll, when do you think any of these terms were used? 2010  1860  1930s  1970s  2010  1980  1990s  Late 2010s  2020  2010  1950s  1960  2010  1970s  1970s  2000  2020  1980  2000  1970  2000  1900-ish  2010  1960s  1950  1990s  90s  70s  1990s  1980s  1970  1950  1980  1960s  2000s  1990s  2010  2014  1950  2010  1970  1960  1960s  1960s  1970s  2020

Poll

Graph showing when the terms were first used and relative use. The time axis starts at 1975. in 1977 there are very few uses of Neurotypical, it picks up in the mid to late 90s and goes up exponentially. Neurodiverse starts to rise in around 2006 and Neurodivergent in around 2013. This is according to Google Ngram.

This slide is a graph showing when the terms were first used and relative use. The time axis starts at 1975. in 1977 there are very few uses of Neurotypical, it picks up in the mid to late 90s and goes up exponentially. Neurodiverse starts to rise in around 2006 and Neurodivergent in around 2013. This is according to Google Ngram.

Meme — A colourful VW Transporter with an orange VW beatle painted on the side of it. “Neurodivergent masking”

In general, neurodivergent people spend a lot of time hiding who we really are. People might not know that they are neurodivergent but are still masking their/our behaviour even if they don’t understand it.

This slide is to give an indication of some of the conditions which come under the term neurodivergent, Autism, ADHD, Dyscalculia, Dyslexia, Epilepsy, Tourettes and tic disorders, Intellectual disability, Foetal alcohol spectrum disorder, Developmental language disorder. Conditions may be present from birth or acquired through illness or injury.

This slide is to give an indication of some of the conditions which come under the term neurodivergent. Conditions may be present from birth or acquired through illness or injury.

A few stats — Up to 20% of the UK population are neurodivergent. This equates to 13 million people, including two million people with dyslexia and 700,000 people with autism spectrum condition. Only 1 in 16 autistic adults are in full time employment. Fox & Partners LLP note the rise in employment tribunals citing neurodiversity discrimination, with cases jumping to 93 in 2021 from 70 in 2020.
What should we make note of at this point? Undiagnosed but masking, masking is tiring, representation, undiagnosed, percentage or neurodiverc (sp), accessibility, 1/16 in work, spectrum of conditions, unmasking, adhd, self awareness, unconcious bias, dyslexia, alcojol (sp) disorder, autism, typical came first language, job opportunities

Poll of what the participants wanted to note at this point

Organisational change
Meme Cartoon — man on a raised dias “who wants change?” 12 people with their hands up looking up and smiling. 2nd pane, “Who wants to change?” 12 people with their hands down, looking down and looking glum.

I have seen one with a third pane “Who wants to lead change?” Everyone runs away.

Image of Drive (book by Dan Pink) — the surprising truth about what motivates us. Three circles showing Autonomy, purpose and mastery.

In Drive — The Surprising Truth About What Motivates Us, Dan Pink says that we are [all] motivated by autonomy, purpose and mastery. Autonomy and purpose are mostly in the gift of managers. Mastery we can develop ourselves to an extent however with too much change e.g. a change to the preferred programming language or change process, we can lose mastery and so that can make things very uncomfortable for anyone, particularly for ND people.

Poll — What are the skills needed to be successful with organisational change? Diversity
 Flexibility
 Patience
 Empathy
 Communication
 Fun
 Charisma
 Leadership
 resillience
 Empowerment
 Dynamic
 Engagement
 Confidence
 Curiosity
 Honesty
 Acceptance
 Trust
 Psych safety
 Team player
 Adaptability
 Navigating complexity
 Systems thinking 
 Bravery
 Open mindset
 Open
 Adaptable
 Alignment
 Courage
 Narrative
 Storytelling
 Collaborative
 Active listening
 stubbornness

Poll — Skills which are needed to be successful with organisational change

1/2 According to the research commissioned by Neurodiversity in Business and undertaken by Birbeck university strengths reported by neurodivergent people were Hyperfocus, Creativity, Innovative thinking, Detail processing, Authenticity, Visual reasoning, Long term memory,
2/2 Entrepreneurialism, Verbal comprehension, Cognitive control, visual spacial skills, Numeracy and short-term memory.
Meme Cartoon — A bookshelf with a long queue along a path towards it and past it to the left and to the right and behind. Above it a sign which says answers and an arrow “simple and wrong” pointing left and over a cliff and “complex but right” pointing to the right and behind. A huge crsh of people are going left and over the cliff and only five people have taken the complex but right path.

Does this look familiar?

Cynefin Framework — a five domain model with confused in the centre and from the bottom left going anticlockwise, clear, complicated, complex and chaos. Below clear and complicated it says ordered and below complex and chaotic it says unordered. There are more words in the image, I will explain in the next paragraph.

Cynefin is a sensemaking model created by Dave Snowden (who was the keynote speaker on day one). It is made up of five domains with confusion in the centre for things for which we have not yet determined the correct domain. From the bottom left we have clear for things where cause and effect are obvious, anyone can do it, it either works or it doesn’t and best practices apply. We sense, categorise and respond. An example might be that I want my partner to wash a dress for me so I make a checklist for him of what to do before putting it into the washing machine e.g. empty the pockets, turn it inside out, what detergent to add and how much, what setting to use and what to do when it has finished e.g. put it on a hanger on the shower rail. He *should* be able to follow those instructions.

In the complicated domain the cause and effect are knoweble and predictable however in the main some expertise is required, Good practice applies. We sense, analyse and respond. An example of complicated might be my car which needs a new catalytic converter. I will need to take it to an expert and pay them to replace it. They will know what parts and tools are needed and how to do it.

In the complex domain cause and effect can only be partially seen and retrospectively. In order to deal with something which is complex we need to try things and then do it more if it works and stop if it doesn’t — emergent practice. We probe, sense and respond. An example of complex is anything we have no experience of or anything in which the results are not stable e.g. writing software to perform an activity we don’t understand, for people who may or may not want to use it and our future financial performance as a business depends upon this work.

Cause and effect in the chaotic domain is so unpredictable as to appear random. Novel practices apply (anything could make it better). We act, sense and respond. Trained crews might help us e.g. Firefighters or paramedics. Examples of things in the chaotic domain are fires, accidents, flood and the like.

Each domain has relationships with the others and we can move between them e.g. If we do something which is complex we might learn enough about it to become expert and in the future it is merely complicated. If something is chaotic, once it has been brought under control it might then be complicated such as a fire, once out will then turn into a demolition, rebuild or clean up operation.

Cynefin is well worth your time to learn more about it you are involved in change.

Meme — An image over the top of the cynefin model which looks the same shape In place of complicated Huh???, in place of clear Yuuup…, in place of complicated Uggghhh…, in place or complex Whaaa?!?! and in place of chaotic AAAHHH!!!

Silliness

What should we make note of at this point? Much easier to understand, complexity level varies, strengths, cynefin framework, drive auto/pup/mast, framework

Poll of what the participants wanted to note at this point

Challenges reported by ND people 1/2 looking after yourself mentally, concentration, asking for help when you need it, looking after yourself physically, managing boundaries at work, working memory, understanding other’s intentions, long term memory
2/2 organising tasks, fine motor control, working with others, inding your way around, numeracy, reading, writing, spelling, working on your own, none of the above
Do you think that your office environment is set up in a way which would make it suitable for neurodivergent people to work well? Donut chart 57.1% No, 35.7% Yes and 7.% Don’t know.
How can we make the environment better for neurodivergent colleagues?Full list in text as alt text is only 500 characters.

A great list of suggestions. I asked if there was anything on this list which was specific to neurodivergent people? The answer was no.

The full list as the alt text is max 500 characters

Quiet spaces, Flexibility, Multi media, Offer conversation in the open, clear requirements, Flexibility, Things in advance, Async working options,
Appreciation, Ask them, Improved various & non-judgemental lines of communication, Open space for discussing concerns, Be understanding, Understanding of different opinions, Quiet spaces for focus work,
Whiteboards and big tellies for noisy collaboration, Understanding, Patience and understanding, Flexibility, Customise working spaces, Allow people to self identify, Encourage more straight talking with psychological safety — no beating around the bush, Understanding, Flexibility about working hours/location of work, Normalise, Inclusive environment, Shorter meetings, To be involved in the conversation, Autonomy to shape or adjust the environment, Reflective time, Acceptance, Able to have a time out, A lot of breaks, Acceptance, Allow the individual to say what they need and have the ability to make changes based on what they say, Understanding, Regular breaks, Clear outcomes, Ask them, Quiet areas, Quiet rooms, Clear deadlines, Quiet desk area, Flexible hours, Quiet space, Ask them what they need, Break out spaces, Furniture with rounded corners, Talking about it

The Buckland Review of Autism Employment Report and recommendations

In February I attended the launch of a review of autism employment by Sir Robert Buckland KC.

Forward by Sir Robert Buckland “At the moment only 3 in 10 autistic people of working age are in employment. This means that 7 in 10 of them are unable to access the independence and fulfilment that employment can bring. It also means that employers, and the wider economy, are missing out on the skills and energy that autistic people could be contributing, to the detriment of us all.”
Some of the issues 1/3 — “There is a wide range of potential barriers to work for autistic people; poor preparation by employers, unfair hiring practices, unclear processes and outdated attitudes all play a role. From a young age, autistic people are less likely than their peers to have the time, connections or support to seek out work-related experiences and career advisors are often poorly equipped to support autistic people. This has knock-on effects for later employment prospects”
Some of the issues 2/3 — “Autistic people have far more negative experiences of interviews, group tasks and psychometric tests. Autistic jobseekers must navigate vague, generic job descriptions, ambiguous interview questions and challenging sensory environments, often with an emphasis on social skills rather than job skills. Many feel they must mask their autistic traits to succeed.”

I had an interview I had when quite young (around 17) and I had been given a psychometric test. I answered it a different way each time. I didn’t get the job.

Some of the issues 3/3 — “Even after finding work, maintaining long-term sustainable employment remains a challenge for autistic people. Many do not receive the necessary support or adjustments to enable them to fulfil their role in the face of inaccessible sensory and social environments. Many autistic adults are not aware of their legal rights around reasonable adjustments. Only around 35% of autistic employees are fully open about being autistic, with 1 in 10 not disclosing to anyone at work.
The five themes used to explore the issues 1/5 What initiatives can help to raise awareness, reduce stigma and capitalise on the productivity of [neurodivergent] employees?

In each case the original question was about autistic people and I have replaced autistic with [neurodivergent]. We discussed training, events and media.

2/5 What more could be done to prepare [neurodivergent] people effectively for beginning or returning to a career?
3/5 How can recruitment practices be adjusted to meet the needs of [neurodivergent] applicants?

We talked about questions being provided before an interview

4/5 How can employers support [neurodivergent] people already in their workforce?

We discussed psychological safety, staff neurodivergent networks and visible senior support

5/5 How can [neurodivergent] staff be encouraged and supported to develop and progress in their career?
What is your main takaway(s) from the event? Wide array of ND identity
 All answers in the text as alt text is only 500 characters.

Poll — What is your main takeaway(s) from the talk ?

The full list as the alt text is max 500 characters

Wide array of ND identity, Awareness, Awareness is increasing, Being inclusive, Improve processes for all, Difficulties, I’m neurodivergent, Excellent talk, People who add to culture, The Buckland Report, Add not take away, Awareness, 15/20 percent of UK, Good for ND good for all, Awareness, Practise inclusiveness, Cynefin framework, Culture add over Culture, Treat people well, Utilise, Identify strengths, More people are aware, Interviews, Understanding terminology, 15 percent oow, Awareness is increasing, Businesses need do more, Treating everyone equally, spectrum of conditions, Awareness, Neudice is awesome, The Buckland report, Don’t fear Neurodiversity, My son has opportunities, Support, There’s a lot of us ,Autism is not a novelty, Inclusive recruitment, every one is different, The support we can give, Interesting, Surprising stats, Culture Add, Educate value of neurodiversity, The barriers, More visibility needed, Sharon is awesome, Awareness, Nurture, Great subject, All people are unique, Org wide awareness need, super powers, Embrace, Change in mimdset, Increase visibility, Support is available, positives not negatives, Raise awareness, Ahaslides isnt menti, Find out more, Embrace

Links to documents Neurodiversity at Work 2023 Demand, Supply and a Gap Analysis https://neurodiversityinbusiness.org/wp-content/uploads/2023-11-08_NiB_BKK_Neurodiversity-in-Business-Report-2023.pdf The Buckland Review of Autism Employment https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/65ddc8b0b8da630011c86288/the-buckland-review-on-autism-employment.pdf

Links to the two documents referred to

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